Saturday, January 29, 2011

KEF 105.2 - Bass Unit (woofer) Replacement - The Full Story



UPDATE: You can purchase the recommended replacement woofer for the B300b discussed below HERE.

HiFiCollector Community member, Tony sent me some detailed, very well-written information on how he is replacing his KEF 105.2 bass units. I know this info will be very helpful to all of us who own these fine speakers. Enjoy!


The KEF 105.2 Bass Unit Replacement.
My Kef 105.2's suffered a damaged bass unit, which was also showing signs of a buzzing in the bass, which happens when the support of the heavy Bextrene cone sags over time, and is a known problem. Also the concave shape of the outer rubber ring was flattening and stretching. These 12" B300b KEF-built units are rare, but occasionally turn up on ebay, where they are either overpriced, or are in poor condition, judging by the accompanying pictures.

After a web search, I found Audio Components here in the UK, and asked if a repair was possible. They promptly replied, and confirmed the source of the problem;

"What you describe – the flattening of the rubber surround is caused  by the collapse of the inner suspension (the spider) which supports the voice-coil end of the cone. Once this weakens it sinks into the frame and pulls the cone downwards, stretching (flattening) the rubber surround – this makes the driver unusable. Even if you find secondhand replacements on eBay, it will only be a matter of time before these go the same way.These drivers can be re-coned but the cost of doing thisproperly (and with the correct cone and voice-coil assembly) can be as costly as replacing the driver – also the re-coned driver will behave differently to the driver in the other channel (which has an old cone and suspension). The most economic solution (and the one which will perform best) is to replace both the bass drivers with new drivers that match the original specification and closely as possible."

"The key parameters of the B300 are: Fs=23Hz; Qts = 0.46; BL = 12; Znom = 8; Sens = 90dB; EBP =50. It is important to find a driver that is a close match to these – the majority of 12 inch woofers manufactured today do not. The closest driver we have found is the Peerless SLS315: Fs 28Hz; Qts = 0.47; BL = 12.2; Znom = 8: Sens = 91dB; EBP = 60. That’s as close as makes little difference. Maybe some tuning of the damping material will be required. This unit has a different physical frame size and fixing arrangement so some cabinet work is required."

These units were £70 each, a very reasonable price. They also offered to fit the units for me, and to measure the speakers under anechoic conditions to achieve proper tuning. However, this would have cost another £300, which is approaching what the speakers are worth anyway, so I decided to do the work myself and tune by ear. I measured up the cabinets first, of course, and found that the new drivers would fit into the existing cut-outs. The extra cabinet work referred to simply means drilling some holes, as the new units have an eight-hole fixing arrangement, compared to the three-point fixing of the originals. The cones are coated paper, the coating appears to be rubber, latex or similar. It looks and feels lighter than the B300b cone, so I would anticipate no sagging problems with these units.

I have had the Peerless units on stand-by for a while until I can find the time to do a proper job of it. Simply putting one of the speaker cabinets on its back and sitting the new units in place shows that the new screw positions will be close to the edge of the circular cut-out of the cabinet, but with a little care the actual placement should be fine. This could be done with conventional wood screws, but something to consider is that KEF used a special screw fitting for their original units, in conjunction with a foam gasket at the back of the driver. As this was an integral part of the design, I don't want to just put the new units in and assume it will be ok. I think I'll try cavity-wall screws; the expanding wings would mean that the drive unit will be bolted through rather than having screws biting into the wooden cabinet.

I want to double-check everything, reinforce the cabinet around the cut-outs if necessary, and have a supply of  gaskets of various materials (soft foam, hard foam, rubber) on hand so I can fit the units and audition as I go to get the best results. The cavity wall screws will also enable me to remove and replace the units several times without damaging the cabinet, to change gaskets. I think the first step will be to simply fit them with any set of gaskets, connect to the amp, and run the units in before testing alternative materials.

Of course, an interesting project would be to build new cabinets, as the originals are not particularly sturdy by today's standards; a tap with the knuckles here and there shows several resonant spots. I gather that they were built to a particular price, otherwise the 105.2's would have been so expensive that KEF wouldn't have sold any. For now, I'll be content to get these wonderful speakers up and running again, and just sit back to enjoy the music.

So when refurbishing any speaker, you'll need the appropriate parameters to source replacement units. I freely admit to not knowing what all the above symbols or abbreviations mean, although free resonance (Fs) and nominal impedance (Zs) are familiar. I suspect Qts is the natural damping factor of the driver.

Replacing some units might be tricky - for example to replace the mid or treble units in the 105.2's, they each have to fit into a moulded rebate. Fortunately, I think these units will last a lifetime, but it's something to bear in mind if revitalising a cherished speaker.

If there's anyone else out there in the UK who needs any speaker repairs, here's the web address;
I think there are similar suppliers in the USA who will doubtless be able to advise as well. I think Peerless are well-known across the pond.

I've attached a technical diagram and a picture, so you can see the more conventional appearance compared to the B300b.

So that's the KEF story so far - please feel free to edit the above if you think it necessary.

Of course, I now have one original B300b in good working order - so if one of your units shows signs of wear, then I have a spare!


Sunday, January 23, 2011

Receivers - Fisher Studio Standard RS-1022



I had this receiver for about a year, and used it as part of a small garage system. It sounded fine, but I never pushed it hard. I liked the styling, but wasn't a fan of the grey buttons or plastic knobs. Pioneer, during the same era, used metal knobs on most receivers, and there's a quality difference you can feel. That subtle tactile difference between often-used controls makes a difference in the long run.

Wasn't able to pull up too much info on this receiver online. Looks like it was made between 1977 and 1983, although the exact production dates are buried in the deep Web. Feel free to add any info you'd like in the comment section below or email me hificollector88 [at] gmail.com. Thanks!

Saturday, January 15, 2011

KEF 105.2 Re-Cap - Second Speaker - Photos

Finished this recap of my KEF 105.2 speakers in about 90 minutes. Here's some photos:

The one on the right is the one I recapped this morning. 
Did the other one about a year ago. Read about that HERE.

With the woofer and foam pad removed, you can see the
massive KEF 105.2 crossover.

Another shot from the top of the KEF 105.2 looking
into the cabinet. Foam piece removed.

Turned the 105.2 crossover on edge to access the wires 
I had to disconnect. Don't let this scare you. If I can do 
this ANYONE can :) I'm not an electronics wizard by any definition.

Empty KEF 105.2 cabinet. See? Not too many
connectors to keep track of.

Diving in! Cheap soldering pencil, needle nose pliers, 
solder, and the caps - listed HERE.

Listening to the newly recapped speaker as I write this - sounds wonderful! 
Feel free to email me or leave a comment if you have any questions about this procedure.  Have fun! 


KEF 105.2 Re-Cap - Second Speaker


Time to recap the 2nd KEF 105.2 (after about a year since the last one). I'll post more photos of this as I get underway. I expect to have this finished this weekend. Time to roll up my sleeves and dive in. Now...to figure out which one of these is the one I need to recap...50/50 chance, I guess. Where's my screwdriver?

Here's the capacitors and values for the KEF 105 Series 2 (105.2) speakers:

QTY PartNumber Product Price Ext. Price
4 027-328 3.3uF 100V Non-Polarized Capacitor $0.42 $1.68
4 027-336 6.8uF 100V Non-Polarized Capacitor $0.53 $2.12
4 027-340 10uF 100V Non-Polarized Capacitor $0.58 $2.32
4 027-358 80uF 100V Non-Polarized Capacitor $1.92 $7.68
8
027-362 125uF 100V Non-Polarized Capacitor $1.70 $17.00
2 027-436 Dayton DMPC-20 20uF 250V Polypropylene Capacitor $5.77 $11.54
2 027-444 Dayton DMPC-60 60uF 250V Polypropylene Capacitor $15.17 $30.34

I bought a few extras in case I broke the leads off of any while soldering. Except in the case of the 60uF at $15.17 each! Just got what I needed on those.

My speaker SNs: 1858 and 1859 so they use the first model of the crossover.

Crossover Schematic photos 
http://www.hifiloudspeakers.info/Anatom ... Index.html

Sunday, January 9, 2011

Where to Sell Your Gear



I received this comment today from a HiFiCollector.com community member, Shane, and I thought the information might be useful to y'all. I realize this info is already posted on the site, but it's buried in the McIntosh 4200 post, so here it is for easy reference:

Shane said....



Thanks for all this great info on the MAC 4200. I have one in mint condition that I was looking to sell, where might you suggest I look to put this guy up?

Take care and have a great evening!



Step To The Beat Podcast said...







Hi Shane - When it comes to selling gear, you basically have three main choices: eBay, CraigsList, and Audiogon. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. If you don't want to worry about shipping, CraigsList might be your best choice. Expect to get a little less though than you would from the broader audience and competitive bidding action that eBay provides. If you don't have the original boxes this came in, you'll want to get it double-boxed and professionally packed by the UPS Store or your mailing house of choice. I've sold a couple of items on Audiogon.com as well and had a good experience from them. You might get upwards of $800 for a McIntosh 4200 in good condition on eBay or Audiogon. If you try selling on CraigsList, be prepared for people to try to talk you down in price. Hope this helps! Best of luck selling the unit. --Tom


Saturday, January 1, 2011

Integrated Amplifier and Tuner - Akai AM-2650 and AT-2450



I love silver-faced stereo components. There...I admitted it. Yes, even Akai made some nice gear at one point. This set wasn't only beautifully-designed, but sounded great. Check out that recessed ring around the volume knob - nice detail! Had it for a few months, then traded for some speakers. Still regret that decision. I want to say it's 80 watts per channel, but feel free to chime in and correct me. 

The tuner sensitivity was just okay - not great, but I didn't hook a scope up to it, so it could have been the weather. 

Have any experiences with Akai AM 2650 or AT 2450 or that brand of gear, in general? Send in your stories by posting a comment, visiting the HiFiCollector Facebook page, or shooting me an email at hificollector88 [at] gmail.com   Thanks!

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